Then they teach followers of Jesus (Yeshua) to obey ALL of the laws of God. I have found that depending on who you talk to, different people make alliances for not keeping every aspect of Torah so excuses are made. He still needs to come back to fulfill the last 3. This is what I am talking about. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise.-Deuteronomy 6: 6-7. biblegateway.com. Ministries like Passion for Truth and 119 Ministries are Christ-Like in the humble approach and is evident and can be seen in the fruit they bare. They don't observe Christmas or Easter because they are "pagan" celebrations. Do you believe in the Spirit of God? He said he teaches what the Father taught. Lisa, Certainly, Abraham followed certain laws / instructions given by his fathers. I am willing to discuss these things, even correspond outside this forum. Our teachings are simply the result of our passion for the Word and our Creator. (Hiphil) For the record, I have met, in the last 5-6 years, many lovely HR people who youd likely mistake for the wonderfully emotional joyous evangelicals praising Messiah and the work of the Holy Spirit in their life, or similar to the glorious African-American Baptists ready to sing praises about Yeshua at every opportunity while still keeping whatever part of Gods law that applies to them. And 119 Ministries is presenting false choices which limit ones path to the truth. That defines a false teacher. I did, and I found their teaching woefully errant. I think if I understand your position of trust you mean to say the Jewish Calendar that predetermines the Moedim and new moons etc? I must have misunderstood your initial point in your post. Does any of you truly have room to judge when you are all adhering to beliefs that began not with Jesus and His Apostles, but 1500 years later by people who removed books from the Bible, dispensed with the sacraments Jesus established, and taught things that had never been allowed in the Church from New Testament times forward. Without faith and the holy spirit than youll be like the Israelites in Isaiah 29:13 These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught. I know I am sidelining, I do also understand every ministry has its flaws. At any rate we decided to observe the sabbath, feasts, etc because WE get to, not because we have to (IOW its not a salvation issue). Im not interested in debating about all of your heresies. I hold no bad feelings toward them nor toward any other protestant, but I think it bad enough for christians to be fighting each other in the protestant/Catholic debate, but now protestants have fractured into more than 10,000 denominations with most of them fighting each other as well. In spite of there at times being sinful and selfish leadership within The Church, the magisterium (core teachings) have remained unchanged since the first century. Jeremiah teaches that under this new covenant God puts a fear of Him in our heart WHEN has fulfilled ever been a synonym for abolished? I do not follow the dangerous teachings of Judaism either or the blasphemous teachings of the Talmud. Because if they dont? Remember the Covenant given at Mt Sinai? I feel this is not right. Would the devil try to deceive you into following Scripture? If only they had been wealthy Americans . Now we have to ask when/where did Abraham get these commandments? Simply put, John 14:15. 11:3) God => Messiah => man => woman. What is actually wrong with walking in the path of righteousness? Your error is equating caring/loving responsibility with submission to. Its awful. Even the new commandments given by Christ are found in the Old Testament/Torah. I do not personally celebrate Christmas or Easter although I have in the past . He doesnt at all say the words hes saying are from the words given long ago by the Father. I took your comment to be a misrepresentation of how you really felt. This website absolutely tests everything against scripture and exposes the truth.

So sad to have their mind so turned around. Gal. Or do you believe this is an acceptable interpretation of the Word of God? '. We also need to be careful when we make sweeping statements implying that all people involved are wrong. Together we can strengthen one another in love and so help build and protect the bride of Christ, His church. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them by contacting 119 Ministries at info@119ministries.com. test everything, hold on to what is good - 1 Thessalonians 5:21, 119 Updates (Weekly Mailing List Sign Up), Hebrew Roots 102 - Clearing the Confusion. With all love and humility, may Yehova shine his light upon you and give you grace. walking as Jesus walked that is judgement and doing the opposite of what he in no doubt preaches from the Pulpit. 18:18 will be out on Friday Enjoy. I have been many times I was in a cult Good for me Ill edit that. All 119 is trying to do is truly, unbiasedly challenge believers in Yeshua to test and prove what they believe. The Hebrew Roots Movement is nothing more than Gods way of preparing my people to shed their own misgivings about the Good News of Yeshua the Messiah, our Lord, our Savior, our Savior and part of the Godhead. Once we are made new creatures in the Messiah are we to continue in sin? And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age., Quite simply, He is saying to go and make disciples, baptize them, and teach them. Jesus Himself IS our new covenant Torah as we walk in His Holy Spirit of grace!!! sounds straight forward, at least when he returns. The problem with Jacob and his wives is yours, not Gods.. To do proper counsel, to get remedies, to *restore*some that was devestated MANY YEARS. God forbid the men you referenced enter into Islam instead of HR. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. 5:12) My name is Lisa and I would not like to be called anything else but the name I was given at birth. i have a degree in Biblical studies from a conservative Baptist college and i find 119 ministries teaching much more in line with the Bible than anything being taught in todays churches. Have you not read that a man can cancel his womans vow, but no such corollary exists? And since Jesus = YWHW Jesus commands are Gods commands and vice versa) Well saying we are doing it to earn salvation- thats putting the cart before the horse (North American idiom there I wonder how that would be translated back into Greek or Hebrew by someone who didnt know it was an idiomatic expression?) 4 In him was life, I have a feeling that your material will be sure to get through to him! Bless you bro! It is of course not fair, nor true to make blanket statements and it may not be edifying but you will never ever hear an opposing view from your own demographic . Maybe you can. . You can not deny that Sunday worship is an institution of man, for God calls the seventh day of the week the Sabbath, all you need to do is look at your calendar, mine says that is Saturday! When you study the teaching of Jesus Christ, you find that Jesus not only fulfilled the Mosaic Law, but He taught a much deeper understanding of Gods moral law. But I am. The stuff in the Torah just lays out examples of what to do in different situations. If youre not familiar with this website, check out http://www.hebrew4christians.com and youll be blessed. Psalms 104:19 clearly tells us the seasons/moedim are to be obeyed according to the moon. It is only when men are not leading and being the head, that society collapses. I have heard even further disturbing material that I think characterises the heart of this movement and people (yes, a cult).

Follow Leah, dont follow THE Creator (Renewed because the Greek is kainos not neos. You will actually see the Torah come alive. Maybe when he returns hell say he never knew you, like he warned you he would. Quote from my own Baptist pastor: Just because someone is a pastor doesnt mean they understand Scriptural meanings in the original languages (Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic), it means they know the basics, mostly NT and are well studied in denominational doctrine. Surprised? All I needed to do was to receive the Lord Yeshua into my heart and recognize his atoning death and resurrection in order to be saved, making him the Lord of my life. It saddens me to see earnest people being deceived. Then there are celebrations that are 100% completely Jewish in origin and have nothing to do with appointments of God, however, this does not mean we cannot find God in them. But so did Adam and Eve. Also, please note that Rav Kefa (Peter) was referring to the Tanakh (OT) when he mentioned the other Scriptures. And concerning 119 ministries? I was her first boyfriend and boy am I a chief of sinners 28 Someone who disregards the Torah of Moshe is put to death without mercy on the word of two or three witnesses. He was fine with it. Yehoshua, Iesous, Jesus, Christos, Messiah, Christ) Who is this Yahusha you follow? Its about time someone put them in their place by truly testing everything! For example, I loved watching Seinfeld. Believers are to have faith AND obey Gods commandments, which includes observing His sabbaths (BTW the sabbath is not just about going to church on Saturday) and His feasts which are Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Atonement, Tabernacles, etc. Matt 5:17-20.

Messiah lived in complete obedience to the Law of Moses. Make sure that you truly know exactly what your saying? Because they all observed the feasts , dietary laws, sabbath, and the whole torah. to let drop, cause to fail (fig.) think about it because this is Key to the quote you gave The Covenant that was entered into was a renegotiation first the offer was to be written on the hearts of men, they refused that offer and counter offered give us a man a mediator and what ever you say to him that we will do The covenant was to be judged and condemned by a mediator of Gods law. I know this is highly condensed but I think sufficient and concise. I have approached this with much prayer and constantly ask for wisdom from the Holy Spirit to discern the truth from the lies. There was a whole faring community of just under 1000 people who lived that reality. But, unless you are called by God to do so, dont give up being a goyim. I could go on and on, but their is no need for me to do that, you have access to scripture.. PS: Yahusha is NOT Yahuah in the flesh. Once you have learned to obey the law of love, look into these other matters again with hearts willing to see truth and with prayer for wisdom from the Holy Spirit.

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Notice also that in the Apostolic Scriptures the relationship between Jesus and His followers is a bridegroom : bride-to-be metaphor as well? We are in Christs reign now.. and he has all power and authority in Heaven and Earth (Matthew 28). Titus 3:9-11, Complete Jewish Bible (emphasis added). Bless you. Nice, thanks. 17 Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. I am sorry about your experience with the Roman Catholic Church. Nevertheless, each of us test everything for ourselves. Next the teaching warps scripture. Theres another misconception.

Tim is the author of this site (since 1999) and the book Know the Future that explains Revelation literally at last--including the key event of Wormwood (Rev 6-8).
Huge difference. Tithes were for the Levitie priests who were at the temple. And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. Proverbs 28:9, I need help i an christian i have questions ben 7708735414. But that doesnt mean we stop trying. Because of its use in other places in the Gospels the meaning is all those alive at that time. Hmmm. But they are not for us because we have grace (as if no one ever received Gods grace before Calvary ). I too have discerned this anger it is written all over Jim Staleys face, Well said Leah. PLEROO. Yes Sean ..I do not know ..I believe . Three issues were presented for you to think on, yet you responded to only one. Because 119 Ministries wants to emphasize that Jesus Christ taught the Torah (law of Moses = law of God) and then tie that into the Great Commission (Mt. If you (or anyone else reading this) would like me to give you specific scriptural evidence of why Jesus is not God and why the New Testament is a false teaching, let me know, but I would prefer that you pick up a copy of Lets Get Biblical by Rabbi Tovia Singer because typing on my iPad takes a lot of time. They try to walk as HE walked not as how people twist Pauls writings. Jealous of violating the Torah command in Deuteronomy that says we are to reject anyone who speaks against the Torah as a false prophet? Im thankful you are seeking to understand where your friends are walking & I will pray for God to give you wisdom in discerning the truth. not on tablets of stone, not with ink, not of the letter. Two different Covenants with Israel running in parallel. Only modern, enlightened and quite feminized western Christianity has begun to redefine words like hupotasso into a kinder/gentler middle voice so that they/you can appease the aspiring queens of heaven. The groups name is a reference to Psalm 119, which speaks in depth about following Gods Law. Heavy Burdens. What did Jesus say? 119 Ministries is a Hebrew Roots organization primarily operating through their website. 119 Ministries is the Hebrew Roots ministry of Jon Sherman and Steve Moutria. The prophets, in effect, taught: Pray diligently to understand that Paul did not speak of the law of God as being bad to be under but that it was the law of sin and death (again, context is key). We believers should want nothing more than to love Yahweh and our brethren according to His desires.

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